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    Default Protein Powder with milk or water.

    Before you say anything, i know this topic has been debated to death on this forum and in general. I recently read an article here on gaining muscle with minimal fat gains. In this article he said stay away from fat post workout b/c it slows digestion.

    My question is, if your supposed to take whey mixed with milk wont that delay digestion too long, whereas if it's mixed with water its a lot faster.

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    I'll make it easy because I', bored: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/for...-not-whey.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustWest View Post
    Before you say anything, i know this topic has been debated to death on this forum and in general. I recently read an article here on gaining muscle with minimal fat gains. In this article he said stay away from fat post workout b/c it slows digestion.

    My question is, if your supposed to take whey mixed with milk wont that delay digestion too long, whereas if it's mixed with water its a lot faster.
    Mixing it with milk slows the absorption rate down enough so that your body can actually digest and use the whey, rather than excreting it as waste.

    Oh, and read the thread that BukAndrew linked.
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    This question (and all revolving it) is a good example of **** that doesn't matter.

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    well not for me it isnt. I have an extremely busy lifestyle with school and work, and find it next to impossible to get enough protein in the form of whole food. therefore Id like to make sure the protein supplements I'm spending money on are getting used to their full potential, not just getting wasted.

    Thx for the help Andrew and MC

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    Quote Originally Posted by MC View Post
    Mixing it with milk slows the absorption rate down enough so that your body can actually digest and use the whey, rather than excreting it as waste
    just to clarify, it doesnt excrete it as waste, it uses glucogenic amino acids to replenish glycogen.

    OP, in milk for best results for the reason above.

    If your having diet issues you should look at http://www.muscleandstrength.com/for...hbox-menu.html for portable food ideas.

    No matter how good your protein absorption is, if you diet is lacking over all your results will suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shadow View Post
    This question (and all revolving it) is a good example of **** that doesn't matter.
    To a certain extent, this is true.
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    Lotta people use milk, lotta people use water. Both have pro's and con's. I use both at different times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StewieB View Post
    Lotta people use milk, lotta people use water. Both have pro's and con's. I use both at different times!
    This. BUT! I will say I have seen a substantial difference with milk PWO and before bed.

    I take it with water after I do cardio in the AM.
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    ^^ Anyone struggling to make cals loves whey in whole milk :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by madjinx View Post
    just to clarify, it doesnt excrete it as waste, it uses glucogenic amino acids to replenish glycogen.

    OP, in milk for best results for the reason above.

    If your having diet issues you should look at http://www.muscleandstrength.com/for...hbox-menu.html for portable food ideas.

    No matter how good your protein absorption is, if you diet is lacking over all your results will suck.
    Thanks for the correction, Madjinx!
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    Quote Originally Posted by madjinx View Post
    No matter how good your protein absorption is, if you diet is lacking over all your results will suck.
    This is about the gist of it. If the rest of your diet is on point, then your protein intake should already be sufficient. This is why I see protein supplementation as a waste of money, other than convenience.

    With that being said, I understand that we don't always have time to prepare a meal before/after workouts. Although, let's be honest here; that is not the way the majority view supplementation.

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    gotta use milk! who doesn't need the extra cals

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    I take my whey in milk for taste and the additional calories. I have also heard that because of the fat in milk, it slows down the digestion rate slightly so you will use more of the protein.
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    thx for the help guys.

    Let me be clear, I get 5 good meals of whole food protein a day. I just use protein supp's for pre/post and before bed shakes.

    unfortunatly I am not able to eat for like 2 hrs after my lifts so its a must. also thx for the link, i used that menu, its helped a lot, i especially love the trail mix. tastes great

    also since glycogen was brought up, Ive been hearing a lot about dextrose(not rly thinkin about usin it just curious) if you take dextrose post workout along with whey and glucosamine, doesnt the dextrose replace glycogen and allow the protein to be takin directly to the muscles regardless of water or milk?

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    you can use dextrose to restore glycogen if you use water instead of milk yes, but why use empty calories?

    throw in 1/2-1 cup of rolled oats with. Then you get some slow digesting carbs+nutrition.

    Id actually suggest you throw some oats in since you cant eat for 2 hours past your workout.
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    I'd like to add that the protein in milk is largely casein, which is a slower absorbing form of protein... ideal for overnight and extended absorption.

    Casein in Milk

    And I'll just add this excerpt:
    Protein supplement
    Slow acting

    An attractive property of the casein molecule is its ability to form a gel or clot in the stomach. The ability to form this clot makes it very efficient in nutrient supply. The clot is able to provide a sustained slow release of amino acids into the blood stream, sometimes lasting for several hours. This provides better nitrogen retention and utilization by the body.
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