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    Default Testosterone booster

    Before you get all hype and go crazy about the subject, i just wanna say i did some research.

    Seeing that im 21 people are going to say that my testosterone level are at its peak, but i humbly will say that i am asian, and as i research online they say we have the lowest level of all race.

    With that i am thinking of getting Novedex XT...
    What is your thought on that?
    Other brand or product i should consider? Maybe just plain ol ZMA?

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    Do a LOT of research on that product.

    Novedex XT is an over the counter thing that is supposed to be a knock off of Nolvadex, which is a drug doctor's give to women with breast cancer, and a drug steroid users take when they are coming off a steroid cycle. After someone gets done being all roided up their body is no longer making natural testosterone because so much extra has been pumped into their body. Hence, they take something to block estrogen and up their natural testosterone. All of the supplements like this have generic names for other doctor prescribed steroid related drugs. Too scary for me.

    I took Novedex for a week or so. I didn't notice any difference except the one that made me stop taking it. I couldn't sleep! I would struggle to fall asleep and then wake up a few hours later. Sleep is important to making gains. But that's just me. I took it without reading up on it more. When I went off it, I went back to sleeping normal.
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    Well I read if your testosterone level is low it lead to breast cancer if it to high it lead to prostate cancer. So about the sleeping thing, it doesn't matter when and where but I'm a hard sleeper, I can lay in bed for an hour before I get to sleep. So should I consider ZMA? I heard it's good to make you fall asleep but I read the review for the optimum zma that it's doesn't really do good other than make you sleepy...
    I could try that cause it's cheap, but I'm trying to alternative.

    Anyone else tried novedex and can't fall asleep?

    Funny story... I used to workout at midnight with NO explode... Long story short when to bed at 2am fall asleep at 5am LOL

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    I'm 20 and i use ZMA. I LOVE it. I sleep better, recover quicker, put up more reps, and feel better. Give that a shot before you result to a test booster.

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    theres no point in taking a test booster when your 21. Your test levels are already elevated enough. Plus sum test boosters have lead to loss of hair on body. plus their very expensive. a 21 year old taking a test booster is a waste of money. There are also alot of side effects that can take place. ex: alcohol and test boosters= bad
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    Yes, definately research the side effects associated with elevated test levels.

    I should look into ZMA, didn't know it did anything to help sleep. Don't really know much about it at all to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmtheman View Post
    Before you get all hype and go crazy about the subject, i just wanna say i did some research.

    Seeing that im 21 people are going to say that my testosterone level are at its peak, but i humbly will say that i am asian, and as i research online they say we have the lowest level of all race.

    With that i am thinking of getting Novedex XT...
    What is your thought on that?
    Other brand or product i should consider? Maybe just plain ol ZMA?
    You did research? and assuming your test level is low? lolz
    Do your self a favor and visit the doctor!

    ZMA is a waste of money. Instead i would buy a bottle of Animal Pak

    @ 21, you can add a t-booster to your diet.
    ofcourse.. someone 26 years old will reap more from the t-booster but you'll still get some benefit out of a t-booster

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    Test boosters are generally thought to promote deeper sleep. I certainly noticed a difference when I took one.

    If you're concerned about having low test' get yourself tested by a doctor. If you do have sub-normal test' levels, they will be able to prescribe you something better than a test' booster.

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    ^^ For Real.

    IF you really think you are experiencing low test levels, see your Dr. If it's there he will prescribe you something way more advanced than you are going to get over the counter.

    Are you experience symptoms of low testerone? That would include low sex drive, erectile dysfunction, mood changes, LOSS of muscle size and strength or bone density loss?

    Notice the first two. Those are the two biggest signs. Not the latter. Notice also it symptoms include LOSS of muscle size. If you hit a plateau or something, it's not the same thing.

    I've taken ZMA and would reccomend it in a heartbeat. It's inexpensive and really works IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtL View Post
    Test boosters are generally thought to promote deeper sleep. I certainly noticed a difference when I took one.

    If you're concerned about having low test' get yourself tested by a doctor. If you do have sub-normal test' levels, they will be able to prescribe you something better than a test' booster.

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    Someone explain what ZMA can do for me. I take Animal Pak already, do I need ZMA?
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    Test boosters can help smooth out the bumps in the road that come during life from poor sleep, stress, etc.

    I would start with something simple, and use it for 2 weeks. I like Prolab Horny Goat Week. It is a simple, inexpensive blend.

    When using it, look for signs of it's effectiveness - especially heightened sexual side effects. While sexual side effects aren't your primary goal, they are usually an indicator of how well a product is working for you.
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    You have to be careful with ZMA though as it can inhibit copper absorbtion and copper is another important mineral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BendTheBar View Post
    Test boosters can help smooth out the bumps in the road that come during life from poor sleep, stress, etc.

    I would start with something simple, and use it for 2 weeks. I like Prolab Horny Goat Week. It is a simple, inexpensive blend.

    When using it, look for signs of it's effectiveness - especially heightened sexual side effects. While sexual side effects aren't your primary goal, they are usually an indicator of how well a product is working for you.
    While I respect your opinion, I just have to say I see a major flaw in the logic of "heightened sexual side effects are usually an indicator of how well a product is working for you."
    Increased blood flow, not testosterone is often what causes heightened sexual side effects to occur. And with products such as horny goat weed, while yes it may be great for the sexual effects, there is no actual research proving that horny goat weed is a testosterone booster and/or that it's because of testosterone boosting properties that you recieve an increase in libido.

    A great example of the flaw in the idea that if a product produces heightened sexual effects then it must be effectivly increasing your testosterone is viagra and similar products. It is well known that these products produce said heightened sexual side effects without any testosterone manipulation at all.
    So in conclusion, whether or not a product makes you a little more "perky" than usual, is not an accurate guage on whether or not it is increasing your testosterone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJosh View Post
    While I respect your opinion, I just have to say I see a major flaw in the logic of "heightened sexual side effects are usually an indicator of how well a product is working for you."
    Increased blood flow, not testosterone is often what causes heightened sexual side effects to occur. And with products such as horny goat weed, while yes it may be great for the sexual effects, there is no actual research proving that horny goat weed is a testosterone booster and/or that it's because of testosterone boosting properties that you recieve an increase in libido.

    A great example of the flaw in the idea that if a product produces heightened sexual effects then it must be effectivly increasing your testosterone is viagra and similar products. It is well known that these products produce said heightened sexual side effects without any testosterone manipulation at all.
    So in conclusion, whether or not a product makes you a little more "perky" than usual, is not an accurate guage on whether or not it is increasing your testosterone.
    Does t-boosters help increase my size?

    btw, nice post. repped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermolife View Post
    Does t-boosters help increase my size?

    btw, nice post. repped.
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    I have no erictile dysfunction for sure!!!
    But Im trying to use t booster to maximize my growth not my hornyness!!!
    I do have sleep problem, it's hard for me to go to sleep, and I'm easily annoyed, but I think that's just my trait.

    And when I was a baby I was lactose intolerate so I have soymilk instead, and I heard that increases the estrogen, and then I have a bit of man boob, nothing major, and no I don't have DDs..

    So I'm trying to get DR appointment to see what's up...
    Also what other good thing to check while I'm over there, so I don't have to make thousands of appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadman View Post
    Someone explain what ZMA can do for me. I take Animal Pak already, do I need ZMA?
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    On that note, I took ZMA all last summer, only stopping because I'm short on cash. ZMA is an acronym for ZINC, MAGNESIUM, and ANTIOXIDANTS, more specifically B-12 and B-6. These nutrients have been found to be essential anabolic hormone drivers (raise testosterone levels) and it is important to have these nutrients at optimum levels for achieving the best results possible. Basically the thinking behind taking this is that it is a "go-to" testosterone booster for natural athletes because studies have shown that an increase in these specific nutrients results with an increase in muscle mass, increase in strength, and more energy among other things.

    Just a little info, everything and more is on the link. Take it before bed and wake up with muscle. Haha not really, but I love it.
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