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    My friend wakes up early and goes to the gym without eating. What exactly is happening in his body when he does this?

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    This is something I would like to know as well, because sometimes I do this.

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    well going for a run in the morning is great for burning fat if you want to loose weight but doing weights in the morning is pointless and I guess it'd probably loose more muscle then gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcolley View Post
    My friend wakes up early and goes to the gym without eating. What exactly is happening in his body when he does this?
    When you wake up, your glyogen stores (carbohydrates) are extremely low. There wouldnt be enough energy to fuel your workout.
    Even after switching to fat burning (which takes a while, during which carbs are you main energy source), you still need a carbohydrate source in order to burn fats. Once the amount of glucose drops too far in the body, it begins to make more energy from fats and proteins. Your muscles wouldnt function properly so you wont get good results. And more than likely he is dehydrated because it takes time for your body to get a good amount of water saturated. Its better to eat a good meal containing complex carbohydrates, protein and good fats about 90-120 minutes before he exercises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    When you wake up, your glyogen stores (carbohydrates) are extremely low. There wouldnt be enough energy to fuel your workout.
    Even after switching to fat burning (which takes a while, during which carbs are you main energy source), you still need a carbohydrate source in order to burn fats. Once the amount of glucose drops too far in the body, it begins to make more energy from fats and proteins. Your muscles wouldnt function properly so you wont get good results. And more than likely he is dehydrated because it takes time for your body to get a good amount of water saturated. Its better to eat a good meal containing complex carbohydrates, protein and good fats about 90-120 minutes before he exercises.
    Interesting. and makes complete sense.

    I have a question, sometimes I would work out on an empty stomach, I know not a good idea. After my workout, usually 15-20min after, I get these killer cramps in my stomach then I have to use the bathroom. Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    Interesting. and makes complete sense.

    I have a question, sometimes I would work out on an empty stomach, I know not a good idea. After my workout, usually 15-20min after, I get these killer cramps in my stomach then I have to use the bathroom. Why is that?
    Question: Do you wake up, immediately workout while drinking water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    Interesting. and makes complete sense.

    I have a question, sometimes I would work out on an empty stomach, I know not a good idea. After my workout, usually 15-20min after, I get these killer cramps in my stomach then I have to use the bathroom. Why is that?
    If your goal is to build muscle, then it is DEFINITELY not a good idea. As Julez said, glycogen levels are far too low for you to have any manner of long term success with early morning/empty stomach workouts. Not sure what causes the cramps, but to me, that would be a sign to stop doing what you're doing immediately...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    Question: Do you wake up, immediately workout while drinking water?
    Sorry, I wasn't clear. I work out after I get out of work at 6pm. The last time I eat is around 2pm. If I don't eat anything before I lift I get the cramps after, and I'm drinking water while I workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't clear. I work out after I get out of work at 6pm. The last time I eat is around 2pm. If I don't eat anything before I lift I get the cramps after, and I'm drinking water while I workout.
    If your goal is to build muscle you want to be eating at least every 3 hours or so. Just to add my bit of input i'd have another small meal at 5 if you last eat at 2. Just think if you train at 6, say an hour, that's 5 hours your going without food! Your body would no longer be in an anabolic state! ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't clear. I work out after I get out of work at 6pm. The last time I eat is around 2pm. If I don't eat anything before I lift I get the cramps after, and I'm drinking water while I workout.
    Eating at 2 and working out at 6 is insane. I would die of starvation by 5:15 lol. When your body gets used to eating 5-7 meals a day, it will eventually tell you "Listen mofo... its time to eat!" lol.".Eexercise related transient abdominal pain (ETAP), commonly known as "stitches" are what you are experiencing. There can be many causes for such pain. You can google it for more information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    Sorry, I wasn't clear. I work out after I get out of work at 6pm. The last time I eat is around 2pm. If I don't eat anything before I lift I get the cramps after, and I'm drinking water while I workout.
    I honestly can't answer your question BUT what I can suggest is if you could eat around 3:30 or 4 because I honestly think the body shouldn't go longer than 3 hours without food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    Eating at 2 and working out at 6 is insane. I would die of starvation by 5:15 lol. When your body gets used to eating 5-7 meals a day, it will eventually tell you "Listen mofo... its time to eat!" lol.".Eexercise related transient abdominal pain (ETAP), commonly known as "stitches" are what you are experiencing. There can be many causes for such pain. You can google it for more information.
    I googled it and that's exactly what it is! Thanks bro, that helps A LOT.

    Starting today I will adjust my diet to eating every 3 hours. Time to hit the grocery store and buy some snacks for in between meals. Any tips on what to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    I googled it and that's exactly what it is! Thanks bro, that helps A LOT.

    Starting today I will adjust my diet to eating every 3 hours. Time to hit the grocery store and buy some snacks for in between meals. Any tips on what to get?
    When you start eating correctly, you will see the results and be HIGHLY pleased.

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    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...althy-way.html

    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...-a-budget.html

    Read those articles. Make sure you read the articles from the article section. It will help you out tremendously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    I googled it and that's exactly what it is! Thanks bro, that helps A LOT.

    Starting today I will adjust my diet to eating every 3 hours. Time to hit the grocery store and buy some snacks for in between meals. Any tips on what to get?

    for my 2nd, and 4th meal i eat something like, peanut butter and celery or wholemeal crackers - cottage cheese - or a protien shake with a cereal bar...

    eggs for breaky, chiken or fish for lunch and dinner.

    shake before bed!!

    the list goes on and on - loads of meals - love it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    When you wake up, your glyogen stores (carbohydrates) are extremely low. There wouldnt be enough energy to fuel your workout.
    Even after switching to fat burning (which takes a while, during which carbs are you main energy source), you still need a carbohydrate source in order to burn fats. Once the amount of glucose drops too far in the body, it begins to make more energy from fats and proteins. Your muscles wouldnt function properly so you wont get good results. And more than likely he is dehydrated because it takes time for your body to get a good amount of water saturated. Its better to eat a good meal containing complex carbohydrates, protein and good fats about 90-120 minutes before he exercises.

    On this note -

    due to work - i train early mornings.

    i get up at 6am, drink a Whey protein shake with a scoop of creatine and 3 scoops of carbo Plus - hit the gym at 6.45 and train for 1 & 1/2 hours - i always feel good when working out (not tired etc..) then have a shake staight after.

    is this ok to do??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    When you start eating correctly, you will see the results and be HIGHLY pleased.

    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...ding-diet.html

    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...althy-way.html

    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/art...-a-budget.html

    Read those articles. Make sure you read the articles from the article section. It will help you out tremendously.
    I read all the articles and I know what to get at the store now. I'm gonna follow the 30/50/20 plan it said. The only question I have left is, I weight train and run and swim. I used the calculator to come up with my daily caloric intake needed and it was 2,348. Now I know to add 500 for gaining, so I rounded up and have 2,900 calories to intake. My question is since I'm running and swimming, should I add more to that number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    I read all the articles and I know what to get at the store now. I'm gonna follow the 30/50/20 plan it said. The only question I have left is, I weight train and run and swim. I used the calculator to come up with my daily caloric intake needed and it was 2,348. Now I know to add 500 for gaining, so I rounded up and have 2,900 calories to intake. My question is since I'm running and swimming, should I add more to that number?
    How much are you running and swimming? And yes, I would add just a little more and go off your results after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBtaylor52 View Post
    How much are you running and swimming? And yes, I would add just a little more and go off your results after that.
    So far I'm running a mile 3-4 days a week, and swimming about 15 minutes straight 3-4 times a week as well. I plan on upping this in the next coming weeks to 2 miles and then swimming faster for the 15min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    So far I'm running a mile 3-4 days a week, and swimming about 15 minutes straight 3-4 times a week as well. I plan on upping this in the next coming weeks to 2 miles and then swimming faster for the 15min.
    I say just add 500 and if the scale doesn't move go up by 100 for the week and go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBtaylor52 View Post
    I say just add 500 and if the scale doesn't move go up by 100 for the week and go from there.
    Will do, I will give you an update as to how things are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tav1 View Post
    On this note -

    due to work - i train early mornings.

    i get up at 6am, drink a Whey protein shake with a scoop of creatine and 3 scoops of carbo Plus - hit the gym at 6.45 and train for 1 & 1/2 hours - i always feel good when working out (not tired etc..) then have a shake staight after.

    is this ok to do??
    I would like to know the answer to this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tav1 View Post
    On this note -

    due to work - i train early mornings.

    i get up at 6am, drink a Whey protein shake with a scoop of creatine and 3 scoops of carbo Plus - hit the gym at 6.45 and train for 1 & 1/2 hours - i always feel good when working out (not tired etc..) then have a shake staight after.

    is this ok to do??
    I think thats should be sufficient for a workout. Just make sure you drink tons of water before, during, and after your workout. Fact: Testosterone levels are higher in the A.M. making your workout time a great time to workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0K3STAR View Post
    This is something I would like to know as well, because sometimes I do this.
    Me too, using common sense only and know actual knowledge I'd say it obviously isn't good!! Pushing your body/muscles without food is like running a car on minimal fuel!!

    You'll just tire quicker I guess!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    When you wake up, your glyogen stores (carbohydrates) are extremely low. There wouldnt be enough energy to fuel your workout.
    Even after switching to fat burning (which takes a while, during which carbs are you main energy source), you still need a carbohydrate source in order to burn fats. Once the amount of glucose drops too far in the body, it begins to make more energy from fats and proteins. Your muscles wouldnt function properly so you wont get good results. And more than likely he is dehydrated because it takes time for your body to get a good amount of water saturated. Its better to eat a good meal containing complex carbohydrates, protein and good fats about 90-120 minutes before he exercises.
    would it be beneficial to take dextrose in the morning with your shake prior to your workout since glycogen levels are low at that period?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JulezCesarFYC View Post
    I think thats should be sufficient for a workout. Just make sure you drink tons of water before, during, and after your workout. Fact: Testosterone levels are higher in the A.M. making your workout time a great time to workout
    cool, thanks for the advise - i drink tons of water - all day everyday!

 

 

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