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    Default Protein poisoning

    I think it was on this forum or somewhere else, but it was mentioned that a good method of protein use would be to ingest a gram of protein for every lb you weigh. Tell me I'm wrong but that sounds like an easy way to get protein poisoning.
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    When I calculated my daily protein intake it came out at 225g and I weigh 154 pounds. I have heard it is something like a gram per kilogram or per pound, either way I don't think you are going to get protein poisoning, is there even such a thing?

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    yeah there is. if you eat too much gamey meat (venison, wild rabbit, etc) the level of protein you ingest can poison you.
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    Damn, didn't know that, by poison do you just mean poison a la have a big crap?

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    For your size I would stick to 1g per lb. of body weight. Unless you're a pro bodybuilder.
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    Haha I don't know the symptoms but its real. Who said man vs wild cant teach you anything? thanks for the responses
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    There is such a thing as protein poisoning. The chances of you being poisoned by protein are rare.. you have a much easier chance of getting cancer from acrolein; the carcinogenic form of protein. Most people think that we use protein to build strong muscles. The truth is that we use Amino acids to create the proteins we need to build strong muscles and every other part of the body. Our bodies have to break down the protein that we consume into its individual amino acids before we can use it.

    Here is additional information regarding Protein poisoning.
    "It is important that we have a realistic idea of the body's true protein needs because of the damage that may occur when we eat far beyond those needs. Almost every American consumes an excessive amount of protein, even by highly-inflated government standards. A protein-deficient diet is rare in this country, although nutrient-poor diets are the norm. Protein poisoning from an excessive amount of protein is more common than a true deficiency.

    When protein is consumed in greater amounts than can be processed by the body, toxicity results from the excessive amount of nitrogen in the blood. This extra nitrogen accumulates as kinotoxin in the muscles and causes chronic fatigue.

    Proteinosis, or acute protein poisoning, causes headaches and a general aching. Various symptoms of protein poisoning, such as a burning of the mouth, lips and throat, rashes, etc., are very similar to the symptoms attributed to allergies. In fact, many so-called allergies may be cases of protein poisoning instead.

    A high-protein diet eventually destroys the entire glandular system. It overworks the liver and places a heavy strain on the adrenals and kidneys to eliminate the toxins it creates. In many people, symptoms of arthritis have disappeared after they adopted a low-protein diet."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benjymahn View Post
    I think it was on this forum or somewhere else, but it was mentioned that a good method of protein use would be to ingest a gram of protein for every lb you weigh. Tell me I'm wrong but that sounds like an easy way to get protein poisoning.
    I've just had a good giggle on this one, where did you get that bit of information from....
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    the only info i found was on a study in china and they said the body only needs to have 5
    % protien in your diet and i'm no expert but i think the article was crap. if any of their "findings" were leg. it would be widespread knowledge. sounded like a push to get more veg. diets going. i will eat small game, big game, and store bought meat till i'm in the grave. even if i lose my teeth grind that venison up and i'll take mine through a straw. but to your point 1 to 1.5 grams per pound a day for building lean muscle
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    Men's Journal actually just had a brief article that sites a study in the Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism about too much Protein. It's directed more towards older men, but too much protein can eventually weaken your bones through increased calcium excretion. Foods that are high in protein produce acid levels that can eventually begin to break down bone structure. To counter this (when you're older or starting now), you can eat more alkali to offset the acids. Alkali-rich foods include figs, raisins, avocados, string beans, spinch and brightly hued fruits like pomegranates, persimmons, plums, and raspberries.

    I doubt that this will apply to anyone in this forum. In fact, it astounds me that I even took the time to type this in a reply, but I'm bored at work and figured I'd throw this out there just for $h!t$ & giggles.

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    it is not so much the case of too much protein, but not enough fat. with out the fat your body cant break down the protein, so you litterly will starve even though you are eating.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BolanRox View Post
    it is not so much the case of too much protein, but not enough fat. with out the fat your body cant break down the protein, so you litterly will starve even though you are eating.


    I've learned a lot from Les Stroud
    I saw that episode too. Since hares & wild rabbits are completely lean, if you are eating them only, your body has no source of quality fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BolanRox View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    I've just had a good giggle on this one, where did you get that bit of information from....
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    Quote Originally Posted by callmejake8604 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by BolanRox View Post
    it is not so much the case of too much protein, but not enough fat. with out the fat your body cant break down the protein, so you litterly will starve even though you are eating.


    I've learned a lot from Les Stroud
    i was about to type the same thing in i learned alot from that guy ha bear is better though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex187 View Post
    i was about to type the same thing in i learned alot from that guy ha bear is better though
    All bear does is eat stuff though. What dead animal, bug, or poop will he eat this week?

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    yep and his show isnt even real probably but i just like to see him eat sick things and do stupid things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex187 View Post
    yep and his show isnt even real probably but i just like to see him eat sick things and do stupid things
    I feel you. That show is entertaining as hell. If I even tried half the stuff he does, I'd be dead in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex187 View Post
    i was about to type the same thing in i learned alot from that guy ha bear is better though
    Bear is a little faked fo TV IMO like last season where they caught him back at the hotel.. Les is out there on his own no safety net
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    Quote Originally Posted by BolanRox View Post
    Bear is a little faked fo TV IMO like last season where they caught him back at the hotel.. Les is out there on his own no safety net
    That and Bear's show is geared towards trying to get to safely, whereas Les is just trying to survive for a week.

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    yeah i like bear better still cause hes an idiot les complains alot not saying he doesnt have the right to considering not food for long periods of time is really rough i dont know not to say i dont watch his show i do everytime its on i just prefer bear
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    What I have to wonder about Les is how often he does these things. I mean, the guy sometimes goes a week without eating anything other than bugs or a lizard or something. That's gotta be so harsh on your body.

    One day we'll probably find out that he's a fake too, though. All that reality stuff on TV is staged to some extent. Either way, they're fun to watch.

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    yeah and one day bear will freeze to death or really get sucked in some quick sand and be gone
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