Ast Cla 1000 + 6-oxo

brycenation · 05-20-2008, 05:14 AM

hey all, im new to this site.

I have been working out on and off for about 4 years now .. started in 4rth year at high school, but things like drink and drugs, totally took over and i became a lazy c*nt who didnt give a sh*t. Im now off all that . Have a social drink now and again with the girfriend but nothing else

which has left me in a bit of a dilema, i used to take various forms of 17aa-1-testosterone, stopped working out half through finishing my last bottle of the stuff and didnt bother to buy any anti estrogens so basically all my muslce dissapeard and alot of fat produced.

since then i have managed to loose weight. went from 82 kg down to 65 and have started putting on muscle again, i now way 70 kg but still have fat that wont seem to budge so i did a little research and im going to be taking :

AST CLA 1000 + 6-OXO

AST CLA 1000 is a very interesting product. its a natural nutrient found in foods such as milk and cheese and can produce weight loss , muslce mass and protien synthesis.

it was tested on animals and found that animals taking it naturally dropped fat levels and gained muscle levels even though there was no change in diet or excersize

6-oxo is an anti-estrogen which like any other , trys to block estrogen building up while at the same time making the most of your current testostrione levels and in some cases raizing them.

6-oxo is designed to drop fat, reduce man boobs, love handles, get rid of soft looking muslce and turn it into hard muslce, increase sex drive, i must hence the fact that this product if used long enough can cut out estrogen in the body all together and is irreversable

Anyway enough tech talk . i should be receiving these in afew days. im going to be documenting the results as i can never find good reviews and results on estrogen blockers so i think this will be a good experiment. i will be combining these 2 products with various protien products and creatine towards the end plus 3 meals a day. I will be keeping note of weight, workouts done , and food intake for each day and take photo every week. Once this report is complete i will post it on this website for anyone to read or ask questions

sorry about the spelling if you bothered to read this, english was never a strong point at school

simon

Possum · 05-20-2008, 06:57 AM

Look forward to the reults.

Allthough for a fat burning supplement 6 oxo wouldnt be great. Stacker 2 and Napalm are among the favourites at the moment.

brycenation · 05-20-2008, 07:22 AM

hey dude, cheers, yeh i had a look at that napalm and the reviews were awsome, but it says not to use if you have asthma or taking asthma medication . might contact my doctor before tryign it . out of interest have you tried it ? i mean its hard to belive a cream you rub on will help give you cuts and defined chest

Saurus · 05-20-2008, 07:32 AM

M&S does not support the use of 6-OXO!

There are no peer-reviewed studies that evaluate the safety or efficacy of 4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione (6-OXO) in humans.

The FDA issued a warning letter against it on 7 July, 2006, and stated that the marketing of the product violates the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

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Possum · 05-20-2008, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brycenation

hey dude, cheers, yeh i had a look at that napalm and the reviews were awsome, but it says not to use if you have asthma or taking asthma medication . might contact my doctor before tryign it . out of interest have you tried it ? i mean its hard to belive a cream you rub on will help give you cuts and defined chest

Ive ordered some but its taking ages to arrive, apparently it got stopped at customs for some reason. Your right the reviews on it are great.

I am on stacker 2 at the moment though, which is giving me good results. Theres a member on this forum whos on napalm at the moment and he says its working great.

Possum · 05-20-2008, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saurus

M&S does not support the use of 6-OXO!

There are no peer-reviewed studies that evaluate the safety or efficacy of 4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione (6-OXO) in humans.

The FDA issued a warning letter against it on 7 July, 2006, and stated that the marketing of the product violates the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

THIS THREAD WILL BE KEPT UNDER CLOSE SCRUTINY BY MODERATORS

I believe the ingredients have changed now, ok no i was wrong lol read Etioallocholen and not andro.

Interestingly enough its almost the exact same ingredient i found in Formadrol which did nothing for me...

brycenation · 05-20-2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saurus

M&S does not support the use of 6-OXO!

There are no peer-reviewed studies that evaluate the safety or efficacy of 4-Androstene-3,6,17-trione (6-OXO) in humans.

The FDA issued a warning letter against it on 7 July, 2006, and stated that the marketing of the product violates the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.

THIS THREAD WILL BE KEPT UNDER CLOSE SCRUTINY BY MODERATORS

Okay well i dont want to casue any problems,so just let me know what i can and cant say.

pills · 08-19-2008, 01:46 PM

http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/13

useful?

tadolfi · 08-19-2008, 05:10 PM

pills - nice post!
That has to be one of the most detailed research reports I've ever read.

Bottom line in my book - body composition did not change one bit...
What's the point in using this then?

Damien · 08-19-2008, 07:44 PM

Another interesting thing I found out today, for the first time the WNBF actually took a substance off the banned list.

Check it out below:

http://www.wnbf.net/drug-free.html

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