Old 02-02-2007, 02:47 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This is a really interesting thread, nice one BMAN.

Let's see if your weight gain continues over the next few weeks
I agree, BMAN, excellent review.

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Old 02-02-2007, 08:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I think its great that someone on the forum is writing the reviews for a supplement, we will all know then if it works or not, there is no better way of knowing if the reviews on the web or in the magazines are written by the supplement comanies or people involved in selling the supplements.

Maybe Damien will buy all the new supplements on the market and dish them out and then we can have our own no bull**** supplement review page...pmsl!

Nice one BMAN Rep+ mate.....
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:34 PM   #23 (permalink)
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sweet ... thanks for the rep points guys ...

Day#12 Arms : - Favorite Day of the Week

Well ive been feeling the effects of lack of sleep these last couple days ... this is an uncontrollable variable when trying to judge this product - but my marks are more important than my muscle so i guess you gotta make sacrifices ...

Now i had a pretty decent workout ... and yes i have gone up in strength in my arms ... the m stak probably helped a bit ... to give you an example of the strength strides ive made in my biceps im gonna reluctantly let you in on some personal information about how much i can curl haha ...

about two weeks ago i was curling 40pound dumbells (one in each hand) for 10 to 12 reps

Today i did 4 sets ... 40s for 12reps ... 45s for 12 reps ... 50s for 8reps ...
50s for 6reps ... so i guess i dont know how to really explain this increase ... but we can safely say there has been an increase of roughly 10pounds of curling capacity for each bicep .. not bad for 2weeks eh ... who knows i might even reach my goal of curling 60s by april ... definately gonna be a hard

I have also made some moderate gains in the triceps - arm size has still stayed the same ... but the brachiaridals on both arms appear bigger and more visible ... so basically so far with this stak ive only seen increases in strength and endurance .... but hey - im sure if i can lift more for a given range of reps - the muscle mass will come in time ... well i just got home from the gym - its been 30mins w/o food so im gonna jet ... im doing back tomorrow - i know, its not what i want to do the day after biceps but what can ya do ... gotta make up for wenesday ... will keep you guys updated

Staying strong at 201 ... so weight jumped from 194 to 201 ... but has not dropped - we will truly know the significance of this gain when i come off the cycle ... main question in my mind is whether i will keep the gains after the cycle ...

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Old 02-04-2007, 08:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Day#13 ...Back
On saturday i did back and had a good workout ... nothing really to report except an increase in strength for my deadlifts - really a lot easier to do the heavier sets .. - I do deadlifts for back ... because i use it primarily as a lower back exercise, i know some of you may beg to differ ... I noticed a decent increase in lat strength ... and one arm bentover dumbell rows ...

i felt a the rage at the ending of the workout - oddly enough i had some mentally altering side-effects ... along with the rage i felt like the king of the world - i felt like no-one could f*ck with me ... i felt like running a marathon or ripping apart a mountain - i felt more energetic at the end of the workout than at the beginning.... this rage lasted for about an hour after the workout - at the same time it wasnt like i wanted to fight somone ... it jst felt so good to do the damn deadlifts ... i was loving every second of it - craving more and more sets ... its weird .. i hate deadlifts - but i was craving for em - try as hard as i could to tear every but of muscle i could ... and i honestly wanted to keep going .


Day 14 .. today was a resting day ... took the m stak anways - woke up in the morning noticed a little less fat on the body ... only noticeable difference is the quads started showin up ... really nice ... and my calves are also grown a bit ... the hams are firmer as well ... and the chest fat seems to be trimming jst a little


so all in all so far ive noticed the following:

Positive effects:

Increased Strength in moderate amounts - for certain excercises
Increased endurance for jst about everything
Slight reduction in fat
Muscle growth in the legs as well as the back in moderate amounts
Deltoids also appear to be getting bigger


Negative effects:
Rage
A bit of hair loss ... this may seem wierd but ive noticed this week - that while taken a shower, and scrubbin my head ... hairs were falling out ... not noticeable on the head - but noticable nonethe less to me ... odd


Weight increase: 8pounds in two weeks .. seems to also have trimmed off some fat, leading me to beleive that these gains are all muscle ...

Testicular dsytrophy/atrophy - nothing to report

Body hair growth - None
Hairs on head falling out - Yes - not a lot, but when showering still noticeable - asked doctor about it, did not tell her it i was taking the M stak - she said its either stress related or there is an excess of testoerone ...

i am unders signficant pressure from exams ... but im also taking the stak ... maybe its both of em combined 2gether? anythoughts???
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Hi mate....

I think your doctor is right it is stress from the exams, The male pattern baldness caused by high testosterone levels normally occurs over a period of time and not over a couple of weeks, high levels of testosterone can be converted to dihydrotestoserone (DHT) but the M Stack had DHT inhibitors

Sudden or stressfull events can cause the hair follicles to prematurely stop growing and enter into a resting phase. The hair will then stay in the resting phase for about 3 months after which time a large amount of hair will of been shed. Often the person involved will have recovered from the event before the hair loss occurs. In most cases the hair loss is temporary and the hair soon recovers.......

Just think it will save on hair cuts, I suppose that is a plus for using the M Stack...
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Day 14 ... Just relaxed, took the Mstak - but now workout...

Day 15 - Legs - wrote an exam the morning of, was running on 2hrs of sleep ... to summarize the following Not a good Workout ...

The workout was going great intitially - i pumped those squats and was getting a killer workout. Felt great - man oh man have those little bastards grown stronger and a bit bigger. Ever since ive been on the M Stak ive jumped about 20pounds on the old squat ... Now after this i went to the horizontal leg press ... i superset this with a calv exercises... basically when im done the set - i keep my legs extended fully ... and adjsut might feed to bottom of the platform on which they rest and move them back and forth keeping my legs stright - its hard to explain but it works the calves ... anyways i was doing 4 sets of these - 45 to 60second breaks inbetween sets.

Everything was great till the last set - i pushed myself to the freaking limit on this set ... even after my muscles were saying they were tired i just kept going and going ... when i stood up i felt a bit dizzy - but told me self to man up and did some leg extension ... the dizziness got a bit worst and some nausea kicked in ... i almost yacked but chugged some water, told myself to man up and kept going .. i started doing leg curls for hamstrings ... **** kept gettig worst ... i had to do one more exercise for calves - but i couldnt ... i felt exhauseted, and wanted to puke ...

i think this was due to do a lack of sleep from the previous day and previous week as well as a real poor diet consisting of pizza, breaded chicken, white bread sandwiches, pop and a lot of caffeine ... on top of all this i was only eating 3 or 4times a day ... my buddy said i pushed myself to the limit - he said its called "torture training - when u exhaust urselve to the point of vomiting or passing out" ... i dont knw but it was not good
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Day 16 - well yesterday i did chest ... the puking and nausea and what not were all gone today ... and after doing two weeks of strength i changed up to keeping in a rep range of 8 to 10reps ... I like where my chest is going ... sure its nothing like Columbo's or Arnold's ... but its comming along - i had a nice workout - my incline bench has gone up about 10pounds, the flat bench is hard to say ... because - my chest is my heardest muscle to develop - so a 10pound jump in about 3weeks of training is still satisfying to me ... ill take it ... the thing i really loved when i woke up yesterday was the amount of fat that literally shedded off .. i know i said i was at 19percent ... in one of my threads but i dont knw if its the stress or wat - but the gut definately went down ... i also started seeing some vascularity in the chest .. like some blood vessels emerging on outer pectoralis - you can see a nice network of em ... branching from the front part of the deltoid to the the chest .. as well as the bicep ... This will be my last chest workout on the M stak - it was a good enough - its too bad ive head exams these last two weeks, so the full potential of this stack was prolly diminished due to the lack of sleep ... all in all im at 202 right now ... with less fat more muscle ... im doing back today - will right about in bit - going to the gym now
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When ur talking about exams im assuming your in the 17-25 year old range. I read that if your under 20 animal stack wont do much for you because you already have so many puberty hormones running through your body. I don't know if this applies to you but just a thought. And I think m stack may be more for protein retention that hormonal increase anyways.
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:16 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I do agree that this supplement will not be effective for individuals less than 20 due to them having a lot of test and growth assisting hormones already in their bodies ... But ... this supplement does contain certain things that would assist an individual such as myself with building muscle. I am 20 right now ... turning 21 in a few months - and males reach their maximum tesosterone production at this age - but this supplement has helped me in someways ... the animal stak 2 i beleive is strictily a booster - this one decreases estrogen, increases free testosterone and has methoxy-isoflavones ... i dont knw their signficance but i have seen small increases in mass ... there is really no way to explain the 9pound jump in weight ive made over the past 2weeks ... i have not gotten fatter so this has caused me to beleive that this stack did assist me ... though you could be right to lol - its just hard to see someone make decent gains in so little time without the assitsance of a supplement even if they are 20/21. The other guys might have more to say on this matter
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Day 17 ... well i did back yesterday ... had a real good workout - nothing to report for the workout ... phsyique wise ... started seeing some of the Rhombs emerge - when i flex the lats i see some definition in them ... the lower back has also strengthened quite a bit

My weight currently sits at 204 ... there is no longer any rage ... nothing really else to report - tomorrow is the last day im going to be working out on the stak, so by sunday i will have a summarized riview


Weight before start: 194
Weight on Day 17 - 204

Fat Gain - Not visible
Strength - gain ... minimal to moderat
Endurance gain - moderate
Muscle growth - moderate in back, legs and shoulders

Side-effects ... slight rage ... very slight, very controllable
... felt sick one day, most likely from overtraining


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