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[taintedplay]

Ok, to start off im about 6'2, 200lb but i do not know my bf%

question uno: are there any excersizes that specifically deal with losing fat on the pecks? i have man boobs, and want to rid of them. Or an excersize that makes them less noticable or something

2: im decently strong (max bench 245, max standing push press 165) but my muscles just dont look like it. Alot of my friends look all muscular and cut, and cant bench a hundred. Am i doing something wrong?

[linedriver465]

have your bodyfat determined here: Want to know your bodyfat % ?

Read the articles, and previous posts on the site.
You cannot spot reduce, you have to reduce your calorie intake 500 below your daily calorie needs
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/too...alculator.html

Cardio, a clean diet, and determination will help reduce your "man boobs"

[Doug]

Originally Posted by taintedplay

Ok, to start off im about 6'2, 200lb but i do not know my bf%

question uno: are there any excersizes that specifically deal with losing fat on the pecks? i have man boobs, and want to rid of them. Or an excersize that makes them less noticable or something

2: im decently strong (max bench 245, max standing push press 165) but my muscles just dont look like it. Alot of my friends look all muscular and cut, and cant bench a hundred. Am i doing something wrong?

Hi, in answer to your questions..

(1) Cardio and clean diet is the only way to lose body fat
(2) Are you concentrating more on being able to lift heavy weights rather than building muscle, strength training and muscle building are different forms of training...

[5kgLifter]

Originally Posted by taintedplay

Ok, to start off im about 6'2, 200lb but i do not know my bf%

question uno: are there any excersizes that specifically deal with losing fat on the pecks? i have man boobs, and want to rid of them. Or an excersize that makes them less noticable or something

2: im decently strong (max bench 245, max standing push press 165) but my muscles just dont look like it. Alot of my friends look all muscular and cut, and cant bench a hundred. Am i doing something wrong?

Here's how that body decides to get rid of fat:

a) Is it endangering the body.
b) Is it unwanted, excess, can I use it for fuel.
c) Is this essential fat.

'A' fat is got rid of first, so fat that is endangering internal organs may be shed first; then 'B' excess fat that is anywhere else is used; finally 'C' essential fat resources are used, when there is nothing else left to take from. The body is a self-preserving mechanism, which is why we cannot spot reduce, 'cos our bodies are smarter, way smarter, than we are, thankfully...otherwise we'd all be in trouble

[stikfigure]

Hey 5k, I'm just curious on your source for this. I'm sure you're tired of sourcing all of your posts. This is just something that sounds like more of a hypothesis rather than something we can prove for certain, but I'm interested in learning more if there's some literature on it.
My thoughts would be that there's a fine line between the fat that "endangers us" and what could be considered "essential fat"...as I think it's all a matter of balance and the body always is trying to fulfill a need regardless of what WE think, y'know what I mean?

[5kgLifter]

Originally Posted by stikfigure

Hey 5k, I'm just curious on your source for this. I'm sure you're tired of sourcing all of your posts. This is just something that sounds like more of a hypothesis rather than something we can prove for certain, but I'm interested in learning more if there's some literature on it.
My thoughts would be that there's a fine line between the fat that "endangers us" and what could be considered "essential fat"...as I think it's all a matter of balance and the body always is trying to fulfill a need regardless of what WE think, y'know what I mean?

What they mean by 'fat that endangers' is the non-essential fat that gets deposited around the internal organs as a last resort, 'cos storage area has run out; that's after the point that a person gets really overweight, and after that of course, they just get bigger everywhere...I hope I explained that bit okay...(basically get fat, outer storage initially under skin (subcutaneous ??), then next stage around internal organs, then third stage get fatter still, cos nowhere else left inside body for extra to be stored)...It is said that this is the place that fat gets deposited last because the body tries not to deposit fat around the organs. Unfortunately, I cannot remember where I sourced this, I wish I could; it could be in one of the books on my shelf, then again it could be stored on a memory peg. I even tried to find something I had on Tabata and fat usage, which I only read a few weeks ago, but blowed if I can find it; so because that info is considered a contencious issue, I didn't post it, since I couldn't remember my internet source.

The point about the body trying to fulfill a need regardless of what we think, I believe to be true, and one of the reasons that it decides where the fat is initially used from, and where it's stored. Maybe Doug, Yitmy or someone along their lines might be able to provide a reference source...I'd appreciate it, since I can't find my initial source, and my head is full of loads of book info at the moment, which unfortunately must take precedence...

Sorry, I couldn't be specific about source...but I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't something on the internet...I'm sure it's in one of my books...one of the 26 of them, if it comes to me I'll post the source for you, so that you can follow it up...but at present I have around 50 books a week to sift through for college, so unless I remember, I won't have the time to search the info out until Christmas Day

I just found a little bit here:http://webcenters.netscape.compuserv...fat/badbodyfat

It's not much but it's a start, which may lead you to fuller articles, by following 'visceral fat usage' etc...hope that help Stikfigure.

[stikfigure]

There's no question that visceral fat is a serious risk factor, but what I find difficult to believe is that the body discerns between location of fat when the body burns adipose. (I'll have to go back and read that first post of yours again, but I thought that's what you were saying...). There is something called "brown" fat which actually burns energy and is derived from muscle tissue. Maybe this is what you were thinking of? and it's brown fat is not the body's first choice to break down for energy, but I don't know that brown fat is found in specific areas only...babies have a lot of it...

[5kgLifter]

Originally Posted by stikfigure

There's no question that visceral fat is a serious risk factor, but what I find difficult to believe is that the body discerns between location of fat when the body burns adipose. (I'll have to go back and read that first post of yours again, but I thought that's what you were saying...). There is something called "brown" fat which actually burns energy and is derived from muscle tissue. Maybe this is what you were thinking of? and it's brown fat is not the body's first choice to break down for energy, but I don't know that brown fat is found in specific areas only...babies have a lot of it...

No, it wasn't the brown fat I was thinking of. Because I didn't use the terms adipose and visceral (only 'cos I couldn't for the life of me remember the names ) that's probably where confusion set in. Probably my bad. I was attempting to say that it gets rid of the excess visceral fat first, then moves onto the rest, adipose (from anywhere), so 'A' would be excess visceral, 'B' adipose/subcutaneous, 'C' essential.

I was more than likely half asleep when I typed it. Hope that makes my original post clearer.

[stikfigure]

Originally Posted by 5kgLifter

No, it wasn't the brown fat I was thinking of. Because I didn't use the terms adipose and visceral (only 'cos I couldn't for the life of me remember the names ) that's probably where confusion set in. Probably my bad. I was attempting to say that it gets rid of the excess visceral fat first, then moves onto the rest, adipose (from anywhere), so 'A' would be excess visceral, 'B' adipose/subcutaneous, 'C' essential.

I was more than likely half asleep when I typed it. Hope that makes my original post clearer.

AH. thanks for clarifying. That's what I thought you were saying, and I definitely would want to read more about it some time.
(I usually type first thing in the morning - eyes half mast too)
(isn't M&S an conveniently and immediately gratifying procrastination tool? .....back to work me! back to work me!)