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04-05-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 71 gto
i saw that, but was confused about which one(s) i should do. do i only take 1 of the 9 you posted, or 1 of each group (3 groups total)
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Do one of each (one external and one internal rotation)
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04-10-2007, 08:44 AM
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How does rotator-cuff training fit into a typical shoulder workout in terms of sets and time?
For example, consider a typical shoulder workout with rotator-cuff exercises included:
General Warmup
Rotator-Cuff Internal Rotations: 3 sets
Rotator-Cuff External Rotations: 3 sets
Seated Dumbbell Press: 4 sets
Seated Lateral Raises: 3-4 sets
Reverse Fly's: 3-4 sets
Barbell Shrugs: 4 sets
This looks like a lot of sets for the shoulders and also, if followed by triceps, pushes the workout way over the 45 minute mark.
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04-10-2007, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saurus
How does rotator-cuff training fit into a typical shoulder workout in terms of sets and time?
For example, consider a typical shoulder workout with rotator-cuff exercises included:
General Warmup
Rotator-Cuff Internal Rotations: 3 sets
Rotator-Cuff External Rotations: 3 sets
Seated Dumbbell Press: 4 sets
Seated Lateral Raises: 3-4 sets
Reverse Fly's: 3-4 sets
Barbell Shrugs: 4 sets
This looks like a lot of sets for the shoulders and also, if followed by triceps, pushes the workout way over the 45 minute mark.
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The time training of the rotator cuff exercises is not the same as using max weight on the shoulders, so doesn't really come into the time scale for heavy training sessions,
Anyone that doesnt train the rotator cuff and end's up with an injury like a muscle tear, believe me your training goes to hell, and can take up to 18 months (in my case more) to repair, and the shoulder training is never the same ever again....it's only then when you wish you had looked like a dick in the gym, and done them.... :-)
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04-10-2007, 10:16 AM
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Makes sense...
I shall make a point of incuding them on a regular basis. 
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01-26-2008, 11:34 PM
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I've been struggling with shoulder bursitis/tendonitis (impingement) for about a year. I've seen a physio for it and do resistance band exercises for it when it flares up. I'm wondering if doing things like military presses, chest presses and front pull downs (all of which are somewhat bothersome depending on the day) with minimal weight is advisable? I don't want to stop doing them, but at the same time, I don't want to risk further serious injury.
Thanks.
edit: I should also mention that since I've started one of the beginner routines on this site, I've incorporated my resistance band exercises as a warm-up, but mostly out of necessity.
Last edited by madseason; 01-26-2008 at 11:36 PM.
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04-08-2008, 09:15 AM
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hey, from reading all this I think I may have a problem. when I am shoulder pressing, I only feel it in my left shoulder, not my right. I also have a similar problem when benching. I can feel my left chest working but for sum reason I feel it more in my right shoulder slightly more than in my right chest.???????
thanks
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08-13-2008, 11:56 PM
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shoulder training
Hi,
This is jessica,i given the three external rotation exercises Choose one. Dont do all three. In the first sample, resistance is provided by using an immovable object; In the second, resistance is provided by using dumbbells. In the third, resistance is provided by the use of resistance bands.to fallow the rules care fully.
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10-28-2008, 04:32 PM
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good post, i think that you should post demonstration videos of these warm ups =)
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