What Result Would You Get?

[rony]

Kinda curious... If I eat at my BMR, good diet and all. And If I follow, say, Dougs 4DS, would I be able to get muscle and lose fat at the same time? I figure only the following can occur:

Nothing Happens (unlike cuz your still lifting heavy ass weights and the body tries to adapt)
Only your strength spikes (Possible, but still hard to believe)
Gain muscle, gain strength, lose fat all at a slow pace (makes the most sense)

Opinions?

[Scrutiny]

If you eat your BMR, with a good diet and all, you will most likely gain not much if any muscle mass.

Infact, you will probably find you will lose some weight at some point, with a deficit being created through the weight-training itself.

Your #1 point would be the most likely out-come - You will either maintain your weight or end up losing a little bit. Not much if any significant increase in muscle size.

[Metal312]

You won't be gaining muscle if you eat at your BMR and lift because you are burning calories lifting and you need a surplus to gain muscle. If anything you might see some strength gains and possibly some weight loss.

That's my take on it anyway, I really doubt you would be gaining muscle with that approach though.

[SIASY]

Originally Posted by Scrutiny

If you eat your BMR, with a good diet and all, you will most likely gain not much if any muscle mass.

Infact, you will probably find you will lose some weight at some point, with a deficit being created through the weight-training itself.

Your #1 point would be the most likely out-come - You will either maintain your weight or end up losing a little bit. Not much if any significant increase in muscle size.

Would this be the same if you were on a strength routine?
i.e. lose fat with little strength gains.

[DannyT]

Originally Posted by SIASY

Would this be the same if you were on a strength routine?
i.e. lose fat with little strength gains.

you can do that if you was cutting. Maintaining you may lose fat/weight to an extent, but that's minimal as you will be eating at your BMR. But strength gains could occur.

[rony]

I think we are underestimating the body's intelligence. If we overload the muscles with weight, we are going to get bigger and stronger. Simple so far. But if you deprive the body of calories, it will lose fat and muscle. The only reason why we don't lose the muscle is that we still train heavy. In a sense we are telling the body that the muscle still needs to be there. When bulking, most of us eat big to get big, the byproduct being fat tissue. This is cause by the surplus of calories. If you take away the surplus and eat at your BMR, you will not gain fat. But if you still strive to make gains in strength, then the muscle should come, albeit slower. Think about it, how many skinny guys do you see benching 250lbs? And since the body is being hounded with calories it should also lose fat.

Does it make sense or do you still disagree?

[Kristian]

I think strength gains would be totally possible but with very little muscle gains. In my opinion you would still gain muscle but a lot slower and eventually it will slow down to a complete stop and you won't gain any more muscle until you increase the calorie and protein intake needed to build more.