Unread 01-28-2010, 11:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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A Reply to most of the posts above,

There is always going to be someone who learns quicker than another this i have no doubt, this post was mostly aimed at the routine's on the site.

I would class myself as an intermediate, i have good knowledge my form could be a little better and the way i process my knowledge to my workouts could deffinately be improved.

But, i dont think anyone without a good few years training can be classed advanced, there are too many techniques and way too much knowledge to be absorbed in a year or 2 + the fact that you need to master many movements in the gym.

Too often i see people with say 6-12months experience trying more advanced stuff, hell i used to be one of them, iv realised just because i can do them doesn't mean i should.

Begginer to me is someone just starting with some knowledge

Intermediate to me is someone with great knowledge, near perfect form.

Advanced to me is someone who has deep knowledge in all aspects of training, perfect form, Has worked out what they're bodies react best and someone who can share his knowledge in a way anyone can understand, E.g Sports conditioning coach, Personel Trainer, etc.
There is nothing wrong with the way you feel about classifications of experience level. Each person is an individual.

Your realization of your own experience and a goal to improve says that your dedicated. Nothing wrong with that in the least.

Personally I will be a beginner for quite some time. That is just me and how I feel. There is a lot to learn and to learn properly it takes time and dedication.

Without going into too much detail I can understand your feeling on this matter.

Keep moving forward and remember that no matter where everyone else is in experience we are all individuals.

BTW: It's not about learning it faster, its about doing it well for you.
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Unread 01-28-2010, 11:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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alright so do you mean that everyone with less than a years experience should only be doing begginer workouts? And at what point do you think people should start incorporating squats, deadlifts and the intermediate compound moves into their routines according to your classification which is the way I see it too.
Lots of beginner routines include squats, deads, and benching. I think at least six months of training is needed for most people before they move to an intermediate routine, and for many people longer. Remember, there are varying degrees of beginner routines available. -EK
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Unread 01-28-2010, 12:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hell, your only an advanced lifter when you know you need a beginners routine...


ps. I consider myself beginner/intermediate
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Unread 01-31-2010, 11:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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alright so do you mean that everyone with less than a years experience should only be doing begginer workouts? And at what point do you think people should start incorporating squats, deadlifts and the intermediate compound moves into their routines according to your classification which is the way I see it too.
Squats,deadlifts and other compound movements you can do no matter what experience you have, intermediate workouts are put together in certain ways which would not benefit someone who has little to no exp.

Say my whole classification in wrong, you go the gym start doing some advanced stuff and make gains ... then you have exhuasted that technique and need to change it, but by doing this advanced stuff your body has become accustomed to very high intensity techniques so when doing something simpler the gains would be at a slower rate.

Now even with what i have said it may be wrong but i think it common sense to add as you go along - Remeber if your serious you'll have many obstacles to overcome and Advanced stuff is put into place for them obstacles.

Rome wasn't built in a day, And it never could of been

Progress is what your looking for, the key is putting the littlest 'in' to get the biggest 'out' - By this i mean keep it simple aslong as you can
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Unread 01-31-2010, 06:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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WHat does it matter how long you have been training? Well the knowledge of the person and their posts should speak volumes. If I saw someone has 10 years or under 1 and I am answering an injury post(seems like I am there alot!) I still have to ask other questions but it gives me some insight into how long they have had with exercising. It does not mean anything more to me.

Placing a scale of beginner, advanced, expert are not really a good descriptor of the background for it compares you to who? If it compares me to say DOUG well I am a beginner. If you compare my experience to someone else it could be that I am an expert. I think you have to realize that we all bring something to the table with our experiences and it really does not matter how long you have been training. I have great experience with the equipment I use and if you are comparing my knowledge base to someone who uses kettlebells well I am not worthy!

With that said lets move on...to other topics/threads.
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