Question.

[cwc1979]

The last 3 weeks or so i've struggled to go up in weight or reps on dumbell shoulder press. I always start my shoulder routine off with military press, so today I went straight for dumbell press. I was easy to get 45-50-55 lbs for 3 sets of 10. I normally can to 10-10-6 or 9-9-6, but today 3 10's was simple. Should I even feel great about being able to get my full sets in considering I skipped the military?

[Toroso]

I would say no. Normally the military press would be pre fatiguing yor muscles. You skipped that so...

[BLITZKRIEG]

Originally Posted by Toroso

I would say no. Normally the military press would be pre fatiguing yor muscles. You skipped that so...

To add a little more to what Toroso posted.

Doing the DBL Presses first means you will have more strength to complete that exercise. The fact that you skipped the Military Presses is not good because they are part of your routine. You get any gains from making the Routine easy.

I say no as well.

[cwc1979]

bursted bubble. What I should have done was do military after dumbell press and see how that went.

[BolanRox]

dumbbell presses are always going to be harder that BB presses IMO as you are forcing your body to lift the weight independant of each other.

[BLITZKRIEG]

Originally Posted by BolanRox

dumbbell presses are always going to be harder that BB presses IMO as you are forcing your body to lift the weight independant of each other.

BolanRox, I agree that DBL Exercises are more Difficult that BBL.

IMPO cwc1979 you should do the Military Presses first, then the DBL Presses.

Remember that the weight you use doesn't matter as long as the last few reps in the last set are challenging.

[cwc1979]

Originally Posted by BLITZKRIEG

BolanRox, I agree that DBL Exercises are more Difficult that BBL.

IMPO cwc1979 you should do the Military Presses first, then the DBL Presses.

Remember that the weight you use doesn't matter as long as the last few reps in the last set are challenging.

That's exactly how i've been doing it for about 10 weeks now. I guess I just needed to know that I could get 3 sets of 10 in.

[BLITZKRIEG]

Originally Posted by cwc1979

That's exactly how i've been doing it for about 10 weeks now. I guess I just needed to know that I could get 3 sets of 10 in.

Eating Right + Good Form + Patients = More Weight on the DBL's

[Davidb]

Changing the order would as the other posters have eluded to help you have more strength for the DB's, but you would then be pre-fatiguing your shoulders on that and your military would more than likely go down on that exercise. Not sure which is better to start with, but the second one will be harder due to the fatigue you put on it in the first.

[BigJosh]

I would suggest that you drop one of the pressing exercises all together. 2 pressing exercises means your front delts are getting BLLLAAASSTTTED. Couple that with the fact that they are also being used with any of your bench press exercises on chest day.
I am going to go ahead and throw out the 'o' word here and say that you are at risk of overtraining your anterior deltoids. This may possibly lead you suceptible to shoulder injury at the worst and lack of anterior deltoid growth and strength gain.

So, having said that I suggest you go ahead and post your shoulder routine as it currently is so that it may be looked over.