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I'm supposed to have 2700 calories a day (BMR = 2200 + 500) but I'm having hard time meeting that goal given my schedule. On average, I'm coming 500-600 calories short. Currently, I'm working to gain muscles and just started with Dough's 12 week routine.

My question is can I take weight gain powders to supplement the shortfall in daily calorie consumption? If yes, then can I still take my Whey protien shakes? Which weight gain powder would you recommend?

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Unread 08-05-2009, 01:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm supposed to have 2700 calories a day (BMR = 2200 + 500) but I'm having hard time meeting that goal given my schedule. On average, I'm coming 500-600 calories short. Currently, I'm working to gain muscles and just started with Dough's 12 week routine.

My question is can I take weight gain powders to supplement the shortfall in daily calorie consumption? If yes, then can I still take my Whey protien shakes? Which weight gain powder would you recommend?

My stats:
Age = 41
Weight = 155
BF = 16%

Goal:
BF= 12%
Build Muscles
Take the protein shakes post workout and if you still fall short of the diet then I'd probably take a meal replacement shake.
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Unread 08-05-2009, 01:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm supposed to have 2700 calories a day (BMR = 2200 + 500) but I'm having hard time meeting that goal given my schedule. On average, I'm coming 500-600 calories short. Currently, I'm working to gain muscles and just started with Dough's 12 week routine.

My question is can I take weight gain powders to supplement the shortfall in daily calorie consumption? If yes, then can I still take my Whey protien shakes? Which weight gain powder would you recommend?

My stats:
Age = 41
Weight = 155
BF = 16%

Goal:
BF= 12%
Build Muscles
First of all, how tall are you? The reason I ask is because I plugged your numbers into the calculator and it came back at 2200 calories for someone who is 4 feet 4 inches. You need to make sure you use inches with pounds or cm with kg and don't mix and match. So I think you should be eating more is the long and short of it....

As to the question, I would only use weight gainers as a meal replacement. You should be eating every 2.5-3 hours. Not sure what the rest of your diet looks like, but maybe try adding an A.M. shake of whey and water and a bedtime shake of casein with milk and natural peanut butter. Those are easy ways to add calories to the mix if you aren't already doing so and at very opportune times.

Homemade weight gainers are always an option but I would always opt for real food first. For a homemade weight gainer, simply mix up a 1-1.5 scoops of whey, 60-80 grams of oats and maybe some peanut butter with 2 cups of milk.

If you aren't already, you need to be eating every 2.5-3 hours. The reason you NEED to eat 5-6 times per day is because if you eat more food at each sitting than you need there is a risk of your body storing the rest as fat. That is the exact reason for stoking the metabolic fire by eating meals spread out every 2.5-3 hours.

Your diet is the SINGLE BIGGEST FACTOR in you accomplishing your goals and you absolutely need to make it your priority.
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I also looked at your goal of 12% and "gain muscle"... I just want to make sure you know you CANT lower your BF% WHILE gaining muscle, its a two step process. maybe you knew this already, but if not, maybe it will help you clear your immediate goals.
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First of all, how tall are you? The reason I ask is because I plugged your numbers into the calculator and it came back at 2200 calories for someone who is 4 feet 4 inches. You need to make sure you use inches with pounds or cm with kg and don't mix and match. So I think you should be eating more is the long and short of it....

As to the question, I would only use weight gainers as a meal replacement. You should be eating every 2.5-3 hours. Not sure what the rest of your diet looks like, but maybe try adding an A.M. shake of whey and water and a bedtime shake of casein with milk and natural peanut butter. Those are easy ways to add calories to the mix if you aren't already doing so and at very opportune times.

Homemade weight gainers are always an option but I would always opt for real food first. For a homemade weight gainer, simply mix up a 1-1.5 scoops of whey, 60-80 grams of oats and maybe some peanut butter with 2 cups of milk.



If you aren't already, you need to be eating every 2.5-3 hours. The reason you NEED to eat 5-6 times per day is because if you eat more food at each sitting than you need there is a risk of your body storing the rest as fat. That is the exact reason for stoking the metabolic fire by eating meals spread out every 2.5-3 hours.

Your diet is the SINGLE BIGGEST FACTOR in you accomplishing your goals and you absolutely need to make it your priority.
I'm 5'7" (67 inches) tall and I hvae been carefull not to mismatch the units - inches with pounds and cms with Kg.

Right now, my goal is to gain mucle and therefore I'm in bulking mode. My BMR showed 2200 calories for someone my age and height (41 years) and after adding 500 calories for bulking purposes I need 2700 cal/day. I've been keeping a food diary and I'm on target for P/C/F - 30%/50%/20%. I have been eating every 2-3 hours but since my day starts not until 10 AM it's becoming hard to take that many meals.
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I'm 5'7" (67 inches) tall and I hvae been carefull not to mismatch the units - inches with pounds and cms with Kg.

Right now, my goal is to gain mucle and therefore I'm in bulking mode. My BMR showed 2200 calories for someone my age and height (41 years) and after adding 500 calories for bulking purposes I need 2700 cal/day. I've been keeping a food diary and I'm on target for P/C/F - 30%/50%/20%. I have been eating every 2-3 hours but since my day starts not until 10 AM it's becoming hard to take that many meals.
I get 2,486 as your BMR using your stats and using moderately active. That means you'd need to add 300-500 on top of that. I bulk at almost 4,000 calories, so I know it can be a challenge to get it all in! If you are falling short, a weight gainer is an option but you want to make sure it is spread out far enough from your last meal. Also adding calorie dense and nutrient rich foods like whole wheat pasta, whole wheat bread, nuts, peanut butter, etc. are good ways to add extra calories to the mix. It's not easy, I know.....but diet is the single biggest factor in accomplishing your goals so it takes time and dedication to see it through. Good luck!
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I get 2,486 as your BMR using your stats and using moderately active. That means you'd need to add 300-500 on top of that. I bulk at almost 4,000 calories, so I know it can be a challenge to get it all in! If you are falling short, a weight gainer is an option but you want to make sure it is spread out far enough from your last meal. Also adding calorie dense and nutrient rich foods like whole wheat pasta, whole wheat bread, nuts, peanut butter, etc. are good ways to add extra calories to the mix. It's not easy, I know.....but diet is the single biggest factor in accomplishing your goals so it takes time and dedication to see it through. Good luck!
Have a look at this thread if you're looking for ideas on how to up your calories:

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drink milk at every meal..

5 meals..

8oz per meal..

80 kcal per cup, 8g Protein, 12g carbs...

It'd add up
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