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Expert Guide: Whey Protein

Expert Guide: Whey Protein

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Whey protein is regarded as a supplement staple, used by athletes, bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts to help with muscle recovery, lean muscle growth, and general health.

This Guide Teaches You:

  • What whey protein is and where it comes from.
  • Who can benefit from using whey protein supplements.
  • How to choose the right whey protein supplement.
  • How much whey protein should you take, and when is the best time.

Whey Protein Overview

Welcome to Muscle and Strength complete guide to whey protein! This page contains everything you need to know about whey protein and the information you need to choose the whey protein powder that is right for you. At the bottom of the page you'll find a list of whey protein powders that we have on sale, or you can just check out the protein powders section of the M&S Store. If you still have questions after reading the whey protein information on this page ask one of our experienced members on the forum.

Whey protein powder is undoubtedly one of, if not the most, utilized supplements by physique competitors, strength trainers, athletes, and even just general health/fitness enthusiasts. This doesn’t come as a surprise given the vast collection of research that has shown protein demands to be greatly increased in active individuals and especially those who lift weights regularly.

Due to the inherent high bioavailability and anabolic properties of whey protein, it should be a staple in most any trainees supplement stash. The rest of this guide will teach you what exactly whey protein is, where it comes from, how its produced, what types there are, how you might benefit from using it, and any side effects it poses. There will also be answers to commonly asked questions and ideas for whey protein recipes to get your culinary side stirring.

What is Whey Protein and Where does it Come From?

The term “whey” refers to milk serum, which is the liquid by-product produced during the curdling of milk. Whey proteins make up about 20% of the protein content in animal milk, with the rest of the content being casein fractions (~80%). (1)

Whey proteins come in a variety of fractions, such as albumins and globulins, that vary according to the species from which they are secreted; since we are primarily consumers of dairy cattle milk, the major whey proteins we ingest are denoted alpha-lactalbumin and beta-lactoglobulin. For simplicity and cohesiveness, the term “whey protein” throughout the rest of this guide will remain singular and encompass the variety of specific fractions it’s found as.

Whey protein is a complete protein source, which denotes that it contains all 9 of the essential amino acids (*more on why this is important in the “Benefits” section). In contrast to casein protein, whey protein remains readily soluble in liquid environments and over varying pH ranges. (2) This is the basis for production of many dairy products such as defatted milk, cheese, cream, etc.

For example, whey protein is the by-product of cheese production due to the precipitation of casein fractions after treatment with acidic solutions (since casein is insoluble at low pH, i.e. acidic environments). Hence the gelatinous property of cheese is primarily due to casein coagulation, but there is still some whey in certain cheeses. (3)

Analogous to the production of various dairy products, digestion of milk starts with separation of casein and whey proteins via stomach acid. But enough with the food chemistry lets move on to our other intended topics.

Production of Whey Protein

Whey itself contains whey proteins, lactose, minerals and minute amounts of fats. The production of whey protein from whey itself can proceed via several membrane filtration methods depending on the desired protein content (such as microfiltration, ultrafiltration, etc). (4) After the protein is filtered it is spray dried to give the desired powdered product which may then be utilized by the supplement manufacturer for further modifications like flavoring, coloring, etc.

What Types of Whey Protein are There?

  • Whey Protein Concentrate (WPC)—Produced via ultrafiltration of whey, this refers to whey proteins that contain < 90% protein concentration, but could be as little as 20%. (4) Usually the specific concentrations will be notated following the term “WPC”, such as WPC “85”. The rest of the concentration is made up of lactose, minerals, and fats.
  • Whey Protein Isolate (WPI)—May be produced by a variety of membrane filtration techniques, with the goal of reaching >90% protein concentration and removal of most (if not all) lactose. Manufacturers will also often combine filtration with an ion-exchange technique to selectively filter out particles by ionic charge rather than just molecular size. (4)

  • Whey Protein Hydrolysates (WPH)—A relatively new technique in whey protein production, whey protein hydrolysates are produced via enzymatic hydrolysis of either WPCs or WPIs. (5) Essentially, this acts as a method of “pre-digesting” the protein by separating (i.e. lysing) peptide bonds; hence the time for digestion and absorption of amino acids will be reduced.

How does Whey Protein Work and What Are The Benefits?

Proteins are an essential macromolecule and play a critical role in muscle development and maintenance (as well as many other physiological processes). To give a truncated flow of how whey (and other) proteins actually work, it may help to think of amino acids as the building blocks of proteins; proteins can thus be thought of as the building blocks of muscle tissue since muscles serve as the richest reservoirs of amino acids in the human body. (6) Amino acids go on to perform a plethora of roles physiologically, such as neurotransmission, energy production, brain metabolism, cardiovascular function, immune system function, and several others. (7)

There are a multitude of benefits from ingesting whey protein that stem from the biological role of essential amino acids. Whey protein is a complete protein (i.e. contains all 9 of the essential amino acids) with a significant amount of L-leucine, which is pivotal for stimulating the Mammalian target of rapamycin (mTOR) pathway (which regulates muscle protein synthesis, among other things); thus it serves an invaluable role to individuals looking to improve their musculature, fitness and even just overall bodily function. (8)

Overview of Whey Protein’s Benefits:

  • Is a complete protein source, with a particularly high L-leucine content for positively regulating the mTOR pathway (8)
  • Is rapidly absorbed/digested
  • Is easy/convenient to add to one’s diet
  • Increases anabolic response to resistance training (8)
  • Helps maintain muscle mass and prevent age-related muscular atrophy (9)
  • Can provide anti-catabolic properties during prolonged aerobic activities (6)
  • Boosts insulin sensitivity and may boost metabolism/enhance fat loss (10)
  • Enhances immune system functioning, especially in those who are physically active (11)

Assessing the Quality of Whey vs. Other Protein Sources

The two most popular indications of determining a protein sources overall quality/efficacy are the biological value (BV) and protein digestibility corrected amino acid score (PDCAAS). The BV of a protein source refers to a practical measurement that assesses the degree to which an animal is able to utilize that protein. It is computed by analysis of nitrogen retention in an animal after ingesting the intended protein source to be tested. (12)

The PDCAAS is a number between 0 And 1 that evaluates protein quality based on its amino acid contents in relation to human’s requirements for them. Essentially, the higher the BV and PDCAAS of a protein the more efficiently it is utilized by the respective animal (yes, humans are animals too). Below is a chart that summarizes the BV and PDCAAS of a variety of common protein sources for humans: (13)

Protein Sources
Protein BV PDCAAS
Whey Concentrate and Isolate 104 to 159 1.00
Whole Egg 100 1.00
Milk 91 1.00
Egg White 88 1.00
Cottage Cheese 84 1.00
Tuna 83 ?
Fish 82 ?
Beef 80 0.92
Chicken 79 ?
Soy 74 0.91
Casein 71 1.00
Peanuts 68 0.52
Yogurt 68 ?
Oatmeal 58 0.57
Wheat 54 0.42

Who Can Benefit from Using Whey Protein Supplements?

The most obvious beneficiaries of whey protein supplementation will be those who are physically active and looking for an optimal way to kick-start the recovery process after an intense training bout, but even those concerned with just basic health and bodily function can stand to benefit as well. Here is a quick list of individuals who should consider supplementing with whey protein (*allergies notwithstanding):

  • Bodybuilders & strength trainers
  • Competitive Athletes 
  • Vegetarians
  • Recreational exercisers and those new to weight/strength training
  • Anyone else who is looking for a simple way to get more protein in their diet

Do Any Foods Contain Whey Protein?

Yes, a variety of foods contain whey protein. These can include:

  • Ricotta Cheese
  • Cottage Cheese
  • Animal-derived Milk
  • Some dairy butters and creams
  • Yogurt
  • Baked goods such as bread, crackers, cookies, etc. that use whey during preparation

If you are unsure if a food contains added whey, read the label and it should be listed as an ingredient (note this is not the case in certain dairy products like yogurt since its just a milk product).

Does Whey Protein Have any Side Effects?

Whey protein is generally well tolerated by the majority of users, but in special circumstances there is the risk for certain side effects such as:

  • Bloating/Cramping/Upset stomach
  • Nausea
  • Increased bowel movements/Passing gas
  • Allergic reactions

These side effects can generally be easily alleviated by monitoring your total protein intake and making sure you are aware of any possible food allergies that you may have. If a nominal dose of whey protein consistently causes stomach/GI issues, consider trying a different whey protein supplement and/or adding in a digestive enzyme to take along with it.

How and When Should I Use a Whey Protein Supplement?

Whey protein supplements don’t have to be bland and chugged down in a matter of seconds like so many people seem to believe. In fact, with a little effort and creativity it is possible to create some delectable hi-protein shakes and foods using your whey protein supplement. For some great ideas, check out the Muscle and Strength protein shakes and protein bar recipe pages.

Whey protein supplements don’t have to be restricted to certain times either. In reality, whey protein is just that, a protein; it can and should be utilized whenever you are looking for a high-quality source of protein to add to your diet. That being said, it is indeed beneficial to ingest whey protein around your workout times so don’t neglect your pre/post-workout nutrition.

How Much Whey Protein Should I Use?

There is no universal answer to this since everybody’s protein needs will vary. The first thing to do is determine your caloric and macronutrient allotments. A general nutritional calculator can be found here.

After you have done that, simply use your whey protein supplement accordingly to reach your intended macronutrient goals for the day. If you choose to use it as your main source of protein or just as a quick shake after your workout you really can’t go wrong.

Choosing the Right Whey Protein Supplement for You

It should be noted that whey protein itself is a food source (technically), but it is still oft referred to as a supplement since the Food and Drug Administration currently does not regulate supplements. Choosing the right whey protein supplement will come down to a few factors including: budget, quality, flavor, lactose tolerability, and intended uses. A list of the different types of whey protein supplements is given below with more information on each so you can decide which suits your needs best:

Pros and cons of whey protein concentrate (WPC)

WPCs are generally the most economical whey protein supplements and are fairly well tolerated. Depending on the concentration of the powder, WPC can be a great option for individuals on a budget who don't mind a bit more fat and carbohydrate in their whey protein supplement. There will also be a small amount of lactose in most WPCs, so be aware of any intolerances you may have beforehand. The other slight drawbacks to WPCs are that they are less bioavailable than their WPI counterparts and have lower protein concentration.

Top 3 Selling Whey Protein Concentrate Powders:

  1. Elite Gourmet Whey Protein
  2. NOW Foods Whey Protein
  3. CNP 100% Whey Protein

Pros and cons of whey protein isolate (WPI)

WPIs are great choices for individuals who are looking for a lactose-free way to increase their protein intake. WPIs are highly bioavilable, easy to digest, very low in fat and carbohydrates, and contain a high (>90%) protein concentration. The main disadvantages to WPIs is they are slightly more expensive then pure WPCs and are sometimes a bit blander in flavor due to the lack of fat and carbohydrate content.

Top 3 Selling Whey Protein Isolate Powders:

  1. All The Whey Fat Free Whey Protein Isolate
  2. Dymatize ISO-100 Isolate
  3. Zero Carb IsoPure

Pros and cons of whey protein blends

Blended whey protein powders are the most common protein supplements as they aim to create a balance between cost, flavor and protein quality. These blends will vary in cost generally based on what the actual ratio is of whey proteins in the supplements (more whey protein isolate/hydrolysate content will generally increase cost). On the same token, you get what you pay for and more WPI/WPH content means higher bioavailability, less fat/carbohydrates, and often a more efficient anabolic response to resistance training. (8)

The primary drawback to whey protein blends is that they can sometimes be misleading as far as the food label is concerned since they often omit the ratio of WPC:WPI:WPH. You will be able to decipher what their order of abundance is though by simply noting the order they’re listed in (i.e. if WPC is the first ingredient, it is inherently the most abundant protein in the blend).

Edit: M&S now stock a very cheap, pure whey protein isolate powder. Check it out here

Top 3 Selling Whey Protein Blends:

  1. Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard
  2. All The Whey Whey Protein Blend
  3. Dymatize Elite Whey Protein

Whey Protein - Common Questions Answered

I’m lactose intolerant, can I still use a whey protein supplement?

Yes, but it may be wiser to invest in a pure whey protein isolate supplement if you have digestive issues with lactose since whey protein concentrate supplements tend to be a bit higher in lactose content.

I’m allergic to milk, is a whey protein supplement safe for me?

You will need to consult with your physician first to make sure your allergy is not due to the whey fractions in milk. If you’re allergic to the casein fractions of milk but lot the whey fractions then yes, whey protein supplements should be safe.

Is it true that whey protein is bad for the kidneys?

No, whey protein itself is not bad for the kidneys. This myth stems from the issue of renal impairment in individuals who have chronically superfluous amounts of protein intake in their diet. It has nothing to do with the source of the protein.

Can I combine whey protein supplements with my other powdered supplements like creatine, glutamine, etc?

Yes, that’s absolutely fine.

Does it matter what liquid I use to mix my whey protein with?

Nope, but I would try and match the flavors unless you plan on concocting some sort of protein “frankenshake” (like mixing grape juice with cinnamon roll-flavored protein)

Doesn’t cooking/baking with denature the protein?

Yes, but this has little ramification in regards to how your body utilizes the protein since denatured protein is essentially “hydrolyzed” protein; you’re still ingesting all the amino acids that were originally there to begin with.

References

1. Resource Library - Milk Composition & Syntheis. (n.d.). Animal Sciences Classes. Retrieved March 29, 2013, from http://classes.ansci.illinois.edu/ansc438/m

2. Solutions, N. B. (n.d.). PRINCIPALS OF DAIRY CHEMISTRY. NEM Business Solutions Specialist in food industry CIP systems. Retrieved March 29, 2013, from http://www.cip.ukcentre.com/chem1.htm

3. Bishop, R. (n.d.). Dairy Proteins.Wisconsin Center for Dairy Research and the Wisconsin Milk Marketing Board,. Retrieved March 31, 2013, from www.cdr.wisc.edu/programs/dairyingredie

4. Onwulata, C., & Huth, P. (2008). A Brief History. Whey processing, functionality and health benefits (pp. 5-6). Ames, Iowa: Wiley-Blackwell.

5. Rhicha Sinha, C. Radha, Jamuna Prakash, Purnima Kaul, Whey protein hydrolysate: Functional properties, nutritional quality and utilization in beverage formulation, Food Chemistry, Volume 101, Issue 4, 2007, Pages 1484-1491, ISSN 0308-8146, 10.1016/j.foodchem.2006.04.021. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814606003050)

6. Rodriguez NR, Vislocky LM, Gaine PC. Dietary protein, endurance exercise, and human skeletal-muscle protein turnover. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2007 Jan;10(1):40-5

7. Timmerman KL, Volpi E. Amino acid metabolism and regulatory effects in aging. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2008 Jan;11(1):45-9.

8. Reidy PT, Walker DK, Dickinson JM, Gundermann DM, Drummond MJ, Timmerman KL, Fry CS, Borack MS, Cope MB, Mukherjea R, Jennings K, Volpi E, Rasmussen BB. Protein blend ingestion following resistance exercise promotes human muscle protein synthesis. J Nutr. 2013 Apr;143(4):410-6. doi: 10.3945/jn.112.168021. Epub 2013 Jan 23. PubMed PMID: 23343671

9. Drummond MJ, Dreyer HC, Pennings B, Fry CS, Dhanani S, Dillon EL, Sheffield-Moore M, Volpi E, Rasmussen BB. Skeletal muscle protein anabolic response to resistance exercise and essential amino acids is delayed with aging. J Appl Physiol. 2008 May;104(5):1452-61.

10. Frestedt JL, Zenk JL, Kuskowski MA, Ward LS, Bastian ED. A whey-protein supplement increases fat loss and spares lean muscle in obese subjects: a randomized human clinical study. Nutr Metab (Lond). 2008 Mar 27;5:8. doi: 10.1186/1743-7075-5-8. PubMed PMID: 18371214; PubMed Central PMCID: PMC2289832.

11. Castell L. Glutamine supplementation in vitro and in vivo, in exercise and in immunodepression. Sports Med. 2003;33(5):323-45.

12. Martin CJ, Robison R. The Minimum Nitrogen Expenditure of Man and the Biological value of various Proteins for Human Nutrition. Biochem J. 1922;16(3):407-47. PubMed PMID: 16743096; PubMed Central PMCID: PMC1259089.

13. BV of Protein Sources. N.d. NA, Online. Cut and Jacked. Web. 1 Apr. 2013.

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Steve
Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:13

Intermittent fasting is a popular dieting method. It certainly can be ok to not eat during the day IF you are eating a sensible amount of daily calories and not trying to starve yourself.

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J.
Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 02:20

Hi, I have a question about "amount".. I'm in a weight loss process at the moment. Already lost 6kg, yet I have 5kg more to go. Because of the "flaccid" body, I was suggested to start with whey protein, althought I have no idea how much is good for me. I have currently 58kg, I do cardio 6x per week, weights every second day (with 15kg at the moment), and my calorie intake is around 1100, 1200. Can you help me with the right amount of protein for my goal please? How much grams should I take per day in order to continue losing weight and make my body firm? Thank you!

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Steve
Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:28

Hi J,

First things first, are you a male or female? For a female your calorie intake is low. This will cause you to lose fat and muscle, making you lose weight but still remain flabby.

Here is an article I recommend:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/your-go-to-guide-for-cutting-f...

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Max
Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 04:05

Hello Steve. Hope you can help me.. I'm 25 years old... i've got a medium sized body .. n im doing power work out routine... to gain muscle mass.. my problem is that ive got a medium fat belly.. and im following a weight gain diet.. im not able to find a balance between gaining muscle mass and losing belly fat.. Could you advise me which whey protein should i use to get this balance and how to use it? my weight is 75kgs..

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Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:38
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nathan
Posted Sun, 04/29/2012 - 05:21

I'm Nathan.. i'm 19 and in process of bulking up.. when to take if i have carnivor mass beef protein and whey ON ?? thanks a lot.. :)

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sarah
Posted Wed, 07/11/2012 - 10:00

its so nice of you to answer all the questions steve, keep up the good job

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samraat
Posted Tue, 04/03/2012 - 02:38

Hi Steve .is whey protein helpful for height as protein and calcium are the requirements for increasing height ?

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Posted Wed, 04/04/2012 - 13:10

Yes, protein is vital for overall health and growth.

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arman
Posted Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:38

Hi Steve…first I want to thank you for your readiness to help and all of the great info that you put out there… throughout the site.

I have spent quite a bit of time on this site, doing a lot of reading. From what I understand there is no special formula that’s going to get you the body of your “dreams”, other than eating right, working hard, and resting enough.

My routine goes something like this: I work out 6 days a week. 2 non-consecutive days of Cardio HIIT and abs, than the other 4 days I do the “4 day split work out, recommended by you”. I’m trying to lose about 15 pounds of fat, in the past 30 days have already lost 6 lbs, especially since I started implementing the above workout routine. So far so good! My concern is actually from here on. I start my work out at 8 pm and usually finish by 9-9:30. 15 minutes after the work out I have the second whey isolate protein shake, than 1 hour later have my dinner (post workout meal) usually high on protein (either stake or fish) with carbs and vegetables. My post work out meal is consumed around 10:30 Pm. I usually go to bed around 11:30 to 12 pm. My concern is, Am I eating too late, and if so, do you think 2 scoops of the Isolate whey protein 28g each would be enough to substitute the post workout meal???

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

PS. I also take 6g of Creatine RT before workout session!

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Steve
Posted Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:01

No, you're not eating too late. As long as you are losing weight and taking in enough protein, continue doing what you're doing.

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luciano
Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 08:43

HI, I'M 50 YEARS OLD AND I'M IN THE BEGINING OF MY EXCERCICES. WHAT'S THE BETTER WHEY FOR ME?? THANKS.

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Posted Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:39

Hi Luciano,

Stick with a popular brand that gets good reviews. In the store products can be sorted by popularity, and you can read product reviews:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/store/category/protein/whey-protein.html

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surjit nayak
Posted Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:42

hii steve, can u plz tell me can a diabetic person conusme this whey protin? is teher any problem if a diabetic take this protien?

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Posted Mon, 04/02/2012 - 11:55

I would stick with pure whey isolates, as they generally contain the smallest amount of carbs/sugar/etc. Make sure to research a product before you purchase, and if you're unsure don't hesitate to ask questions on the forum:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/forum/

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Posted Wed, 03/28/2012 - 09:03

Excellent post with helpful guidance.It's so informative for me,and Thanks for sharing about whey protein.

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Steve Hazell
Posted Thu, 03/29/2012 - 15:51

Hi Steve,

I have been lifting weights for a number of years now and towards the end of last year i lost nearly 1 1/2 stone in 5 weeks by eating a full protein diet with no or little carbs. I have just got back to it this month and carrying on where i left off. The only supplement i am using is Whey. I am swimming for 1 hour mornings and gym 1-2 hours in the evenings 5 days a week. I have been advised not to eat past 6-7 pm in the evenings and wanted to know with the pure protein diet with extremely low carb intake, can i use Whey in the evenings to kill my hunger attacks and am i gonna increase muscle as well as lose weight ??

Thanks

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Steve
Posted Mon, 04/02/2012 - 11:58

Will you gain muscle? Maybe. It can be hard to build muscle while losing weight. Focus on what you can control - training hard and getting as strong as possible.

Whey in the evening is worth a shot. You might also try casein before bed.

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J.
Posted Thu, 03/29/2012 - 22:22

Hi Steve,
thank you a lot for a swift reply. I'm a female, and I read the article you recommended. My weight is around 130 pounds at the moment, so 130gr. of protein per day is okay to make body finally firm? How much of that should be whey?
And one more question, if I stick with 1200/1300kcal per day, will that be okay? I'm kind of freaking out with higher calorie intake, because I have 5kg more to lose, and it should be done in next month, month and a half.

Thank you so much for your time! I really appreciate it!

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Steve
Posted Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:04

130 grams is a good place to be. Will it make you firm? No. To firm up you will need resistance training and to lose a few pounds of extra fat.

I recommend 3 whole foods meals and whey 1-3 times a day in between meals and after lifting. How much varies on when you workout and eat. Most use it in between breakfast and lunch, and then after lifting.

1200-1300 is pretty low. I would prefer to see you at around 1500-1600, but you need to lose a fair amount of weight. Just keep in mind that when you lose weight rapidly you'll also lose muscle, so this can result in a thinner, but still somewhat flabby appearance depending on the person.

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Ben
Posted Sat, 03/31/2012 - 04:37

Hi Steve,
I am a rock climber (17, m, 5"8, 61kg) and I want to build strength, and for vanity's sake size, of my arms, back, and core without gaining weight. Will whey protein help me?

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Posted Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:05

Whey can help you reach your daily protein goals, but without a good eating plan and hard training it's simply food.

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rakesh
Posted Sun, 04/01/2012 - 16:12

hi steve i do workout everyday i want to gain my weight and muscle what should i eat im allready having whey protein i dont eat meat even no egg no fish i am vegetarian do you have any diet recomandation for me pls ?

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Posted Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:07

Hi Rakesh,

I know very little about the vegetarian lifestyle. I recommend asking your question on the forum:

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/forum/

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surjit nayak
Posted Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:37

can any diabetic consume this whey protien? secondly is there any side effect if diabetic person takes it?

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Scott Yonker
Posted Mon, 04/02/2012 - 14:04

Wow- this is a very thorough cover on whey protein!
An excellent reference for the article I am writing on 'Whey vs Soy'
Thank you so much for the work you put into this- will be linking back to this :)

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J.
Posted Wed, 04/04/2012 - 07:00

Thank you a lot!!! I will let you know the results :)))

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Posted Wed, 04/04/2012 - 16:13

Hi Steve…first I want to thank you for your readiness to help an all of the great info that you put out there throughout the site.

I have spent quite a bit of time on this site, doing a lot of reading. From what I understand there is no special formula that’s going to get you the body of your “dreams”, other than eating right, working hard, and resting enough.

With that being said, I have put together a regiment that goes something like this:
I work out 6 days a week. 2 non-consecutive days of Cardio HIIT and abs, than the other 4 days I do the “4 day split work out, recommended by you” . I have been doing this for about a month and can already see the difference it is making. As far as my diet goes, (by the way I’m trying to lose about 15 pounds of fat, in the past month have already lost 6 lbs, especially since I started implementing the above workout routine. I have a whey protein Isolate shake first thing in the morning followed immediately by a light breakfast (usually 2 boiled eggs with cottage cheese and baked potato).3 to 4 hours later have a Protein bar=30g of protein, 30g of carbs. For lunch ( 3 pm) I usually have a meal grilled chicken with vegetables and yellow rice. I split this meal, and have half of it around 6 pm. Usually 2 hours before my work out. So far so good! My concern is actually from here on. I start my work out at 8 pm and usually finish by 9-9:30. 15 minutes after the work out I have the second whey isolate protein shake, than 1 hour later have my dinner (post workout meal) usually high on protein carbs and vegetables. My concern is, Am I eating too late, and if so, do you think 2 scoops of the Isolate whey protein 28g each would be enough to substitute the post workout meal??? So my post work out meal is consumed around 10:30 Pm. I usually go to bed around 11:30 to 12 pm.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I also take 6g of Creatine RT before 30 15-30 minutes before work out.

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Mona
Posted Thu, 04/05/2012 - 13:55

Hi guys,

I'm new to the whole muscle building and stuff and from what I read, it seems that whey protein is safe. I've read about creatine (bottle label says green creatine LOL)and how it can stimulate muscle growth and quick recovery, etc... and since I'm no doctor, my question is: can we mix creatine with whey protein? as the former has iron, zinc, copper and other minerals and the latter has amino acids and stuff!! is it safe? and if it was safe, will the mixture contain a high level of calories and will it affect the weight loss process for us females??

Also, I was wondering if organic whey protein is better (my sister is an organic fanatic and says that I should look for whey protein from organic sources as it has natural stuff with no chemicals, toxins, etc...)

I would really appreciate your answers here, as I want to get fit and boost my newly started fitness program with healthy dietary supplement :D

Thanx a million in advance!!

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Mona
Posted Thu, 04/05/2012 - 15:21

Hi guys,

I'm new to the whole muscle building and stuff and from what I read, it seems that whey protein is safe. I've read about creatine (bottle label says green creatine LOL)and how it can stimulate muscle growth and quick recovery, etc... and since I'm no doctor, my question is: can we mix creatine with whey protein? as the former has iron, zinc, copper and other minerals and the latter has amino acids and stuff!! is it safe? and if it was safe, will the mixture contain a high level of calories and will it affect the weight loss process for us females??

Also, I was wondering if organic whey protein is better (my sister is an organic fanatic and says that I should look for whey protein from organic sources as it has natural stuff with no chemicals, toxins, etc...)

I would really appreciate your answers here, as I want to get fit and boost my newly started fitness program with healthy dietary supplement :D

Thanx a million in advance!!

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Steve
Posted Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:03

Yes, both creatine and whey are natural substances. They can be taken together.

Regarding organic whey, that would be a topic best addressed on the forum.

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/forum/

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Sally
Posted Fri, 04/06/2012 - 10:35

Hello
I am 34 years old. and I started doing cardio (stepper or cycling) 3 to 4 days a weeks since the past month . I am planning to buy this brand of whey protein. How much protein do I need to take . Do I need to take the powder before as well as after the workout?

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surabhi
Posted Fri, 04/06/2012 - 11:02

Hi Steve, I am 34 yr old female with slim body...but it needs toning...have just started taking whey without being much particular about work outs..Is it fine?

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Steve
Posted Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:06

Absolutely.

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Alex Chmurzynski
Posted Sun, 04/08/2012 - 20:49

Hey Steve, I'm 18 and I'm a skinny boney 6'2 kid with a really fast metabolism who is just trying to build up some biceps and put on some muscle mass. are there a few links you can refer me to regarding great workouts and what to avoid doing?? Thanks a lot!!

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Steve
Posted Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:07

I recommend hitting the forum and asking for some guidance. There is so much to be covered. Hard to do it in the comments.

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oliver oken
Posted Mon, 04/09/2012 - 14:35

Hi Steve, I am under weight and joined Gym about 4 weeks ago, i am taking weight ganier so can i use whey protein along with it as some says whey protein reduces weight, pls help

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Steve
Posted Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:08

Whey protein does not caase weight loss. Only undereating does.

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Grant
Posted Tue, 04/10/2012 - 04:51

I have just brought some creatine, grenade thermo default and so e whey
Protein I'm currently using the gym 3 times a week and running twice with using these different supplements to get toned and put more muscle. I weigh roughly 150 pounds. I have a stable diet and Im not sure the best way to run a course with the supplements cheers if anyone can help

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Eranna
Posted Tue, 04/10/2012 - 07:02

Hi Steve,

I am 24 years old, and my weight is 48.35Kg.I want to gain weight about 10-12Kgs,
could you please suggest me the protein powder which I can include in my regular meals? Recently I have joined Gym. I am unable to add the more number of meals in a day as I will be at office (Now I started to take 4 meals in a day)

Please let me know your suggestion to increase the muscles and wieght.

Thank you in advance

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James22
Posted Thu, 04/12/2012 - 09:32

Hey,

Ive been at the gym for just over a month on a beginner routine. Ive just started a new split routine an I'm wondering whether I should be looking at taking whey, or whether fine tuning my diet will be enough.

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Posted Thu, 04/12/2012 - 14:59

Hi James,

You will need to make sure your eating plan involves appropriate protein intake. Whey can help reach daily goals, but is not required. Here is an article that can help get you started:

https://www.muscleandstrength.com/articles/how-to-create-a-bodybuilding-...

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manul
Posted Thu, 04/12/2012 - 18:36

Hi! am Mak.. i started gyming 10 days back..i lost 4 kgs of weight in these 10 days without skipping meale or doing anything special. Is it normal? BTW my age is 17.

my muscles pain alot after gyming i know pain is the way to success when it comes for gym...but still i want a remedy to lessen it..my trainer said to take whey proteins i live in dubai which one i should buy..i have budget of 150 dhs 2000rs..

Ypu b god for me if u guide me properly in loosing weight and getting me in good "v" shape..my weight is 66kgs and yeah my tummy is obscenely fat almost waist 34.. :(

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Steve
Posted Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:10

Weight loss is only normal if you are undereating.

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Sunil
Posted Fri, 04/13/2012 - 04:31

Please Suggest me ! which protein of shut my body..

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nishant nagpal
Posted Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:56

hey steve.i hv some fat in my body not so much fat but the tyres r still ther nd iam working hard in gym to remove them but effect is very less,hey suggest me some protien please, i hv taken phd synergy iso -7 of 4.4 lbs earlier ,the course is over now, and now iam goin to buy a gold standard whey protein for muscle growth and lean mass. Is that a best choice??? suggest me the protien for pure muscle growth and lean mass and good body strenght. reply as soon as possible. (:

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nishant nagpal
Posted Fri, 04/13/2012 - 10:59

suggest me the protien for lean mass and pure muscle growth and good body strenght. want to remove all the fat left in my body...rasap

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zer
Posted Mon, 04/16/2012 - 00:20

Is these protein have any side effect for nurssing
mom or beast feder mom

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Brandon
Posted Mon, 04/16/2012 - 13:55

What type of foods are whey in

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hina
Posted Tue, 04/17/2012 - 02:34

hi
i m faiza n my age is 25 n my weight is 48 only
can u tell me wat kind of foods ishould take with thw whey proteins to gain weight/
plz do let me know

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